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Pia Ranada
Apr 09 03:46 AM

Weigh in on President Marcos' Metro Manila traffic town hall tomorrow! At 8 am on Wednesday, April 10, join us in watching the livestream of the town hall and be part of a live panel of cycling advocates, commuters, and inclusive transport advocates who will react to the town hall. Just send your comments, questions, and insights about the town hall in this chat room tomorrow! We'll read them out during the show. See you! @here

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cristina
Apr 09 10:41 AM

Hello everyone! We’re holding #KalsadaParaSaMasa: Critical Mass Ride for Safe and Inclusive Roads tomorrow, 6am from CHR in UP Diliman to MMDA.

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All wheels (except motor vehicles hehe) and limbs are welcome! Please wear white or green. Snacks, water, and extra placards will be provided. This is organized by Make It Safer Movement — mobility is a human right. Join the ride! ⚡️

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Dwight
Apr 09 10:38 PM

Morning everyone! Dwight de Leon here, Malacanang reporter. Am @here at the FilOil EcoOil Centre in San Juan for the Bagong Pilipinas Town Hall Meeting on Traffic Concerns.

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Lance Spencer Yu
Apr 09 11:51 PM

Good morning! Lance, Rappler's transportation reporter. It's telling how the transportation sector is given such limited representation in a town hall meeting like this. No representatives from transport advocacy groups or even commuter groups. And the chosen representative from transport groups is PM's Ka Obet, a staunch Marcos loyalist.

11:54 PM

On another note, Piston and Manibela aren't invited. They were the two other transpo groups that repeatedly protested the PUV modernization program and the required industry consolidation. Perhaps they were worried that the two groups would raise the issue again, with the deadline for industry consolidation fast approaching on April 30.

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Russell Ku
Apr 09 11:57 PM

Good morning, everyone @here! This is Russell Ku from Rappler's community team. Our reporters Lance and Dwight have already said why we are here in the chats today. President Marcos will be hosting a "town hall" on the traffic in Metro Manila. We have a live panel discussion hosted by @Pia Ranada and our #MakeManilaLiveable partners to amplify the thoughts of groups who were not at the town hall. Our panel discussion starts at 8 am. https://www.rappler.com/nation/metro-manila/be-the-good-episode-panel-commuters-cyclists-watch-weigh-marcos-jr-traffic-town-hall/

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11:57 PM

Chat your concerns and thoughts on the town hall here and your post may be read during the live panel discussion.

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Pia Ranada
Apr 10 12:02 AM

Hi everyone! All of our resource persons today are now in the newsroom! We'll start in a few minutes.

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Russell Ku
Apr 10 12:05 AM

Some house rules from me before we start with this chat:
1.) Please be civil and kind in your posts. We do not tolerate posts that may distract the discussion or throw hate.
2.) There are community guidelines in place, along with moderators to check the discussion. Please be mindful and do not throw unnecessary or insulting comments.
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Jadara19
Apr 10 12:19 AM

Metro Manila has already exceeded its carrying capacity in terms of population, structural and various economic and social activities. Building and rehabilitating roads will just result in daily losses due to delays, regulating the number of vehicles tru color coding has proven ineffective sa far, daily road clearing operations by mmda somehow addresses the problem on a temporary basis. In our daily struggles with traffic, one observation stands out the most..most of the movement of goods and people usually occur during the pre, office and post window hours, roughly around 12 hours..(2 before 8 AM, 8 hours of work and 2 hours after office). If we can expand this window hours tru legislation and cooperation of the private and governments sectors, the typical traffic during 8 to 5 might be spread and expanded thinly and manageably. And while doing so, other long term solutions can be crafted like additional growth corridors in the south and north of NCR, road constructions, regulations etc..

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Dwight
Apr 10 12:24 AM

Everyone’s settling down here. I think all NCR mayors are here. We’re just waiting for the arrival of the President.

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Russell Ku
Apr 10 12:26 AM

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By the way, Ira Cruz from AltMobility mentioned about how while developing other cities is not bad, they also have to reconsider how Metro Manila is planned to alleviate traffic since the traffic is a result of bad city planning.

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Dwight
Apr 10 12:35 AM

President Marcos has arrived.

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Pia Ranada
Apr 10 12:43 AM

Hi! We invite all viewers of the traffic town hall to send any comments they have about what we're seeing in the town hall!

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Pia Ranada
Apr 10 12:50 AM

What I notice is MMDA acting chief Artes is quite emphatic in stating that the main role of MMDA is to "reduce traffic" and make the "flow of traffic" faster. But does this metric encompass other aspects of a transportation system – experience of commuters, safety and connectivity of bike lanes, reduction of road crashes?

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robie siy
Apr 10 12:50 AM

Hoping that a speaker can point out that traffic is only the symptom of the larger transportation crisis. Focusing on traffic implies prioritizing movement of vehicles instead of the movement of people and goods.

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Pia Ranada
Apr 10 12:56 AM

MMDA chief Artes saying Metro Manila local governments will pilot the 7 am to 4 pm work hours for government employees, in hopes of reducing demand during rush hour. If other government agencies based in Metro Manila follow suit, up to 645,000 government employees would have this new work schedule, he says.

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bethfron
Apr 10 01:01 AM

This feels like a SONA for MMDA... first the problems need to be defined.

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Pia Ranada
Apr 10 01:01 AM

Pasig River ferry passengers would be happy to hear MMDA chief Artes saying now that they will acquire more boats and establish more stations for the river ferry system.

01:02 AM

This elevated bike lane and walkway in the Shaw-Ortigas portion of EDSA being mentioned now by Artes was delayed. Phase I was supposed to be finished this month, according to contracts seen by Rappler for this project.

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Ira Cruz
Apr 10 01:08 AM

Happy to hear DOTr mention the need for NCAP

01:09 AM

It's been pending for sometime now at the Supreme Court

@Pia Ranada, any chance Rappler can ask SC for the status?

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Dwight
Apr 10 01:09 AM

MMDA listed some proposals to address traffic congestion in Metro Manila:

7 am to 4 pm work hours for government workers; LGU employees will begin this work arrangement soon

utilization of Mabuhay Lanes

more bike lanes 

fixing priority intersections

utilization of Pasig Ferry River System

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Ira Cruz
Apr 10 01:14 AM

So far, the respective statements from MMDA, DOTr, and DPWH already demonstrate the absence of a coordinated approach.

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Dwight
Apr 10 01:18 AM

DPWH Secretary Bonoan's speech on how to improve traffic situation focuses on expressways and bridges. Are these projects more geared towards the convenience of car users?

01:19 AM

Every speech so far comes across as government agencies presenting annual accomplishment reports hehe

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Lance Spencer Yu
Apr 10 01:22 AM
Ira Cruz

So far, the respective statements from MMDA, DOTr, and DPWH already demonstrate the absence of a coordinated approach.

Agreed; each has been showing off the efforts of their own agencies. Let's see how MMDA now tries to tie them all together

01:24 AM

MMDA says that the increase in cars is the leading cause of traffic. From 3.2 million cars traversing NCR in 2021, that's jumped to 3.6 million in 2023. LTO says 32,000 new cars are registered in Manila every month.

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Dwight
Apr 10 01:25 AM

MMDA reiterates that it sees no need for the appointment of a traffic czar, insists a whole-of-government approach works.

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Ira Cruz
Apr 10 01:28 AM
Dwight

MMDA reiterates that it sees no need for the appointment of a traffic czar, insists a whole-of-government approach works.

I do agree that there's no need for a Traffic Czar. The idea of a traffic czar is temporary; Mobility, an ongoing concern.

01:29 AM

The solution is for the President to designate a lead National Government Agency to lead in coming-up with a comprehensive plan.

01:30 AM

I'm going over what each of the Secretaries' + MMDA Chair has proposed and I have yet to hear a comprehensive plan to improve mobility in Metro Manila.

Tho I think that is where the disconnect lies - the scope of this event is limited to simply talking about traffic management and not the larger concern of transportation, mobility.

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Lance Spencer Yu
Apr 10 01:31 AM

MMDA also mentioned the following permanent solutions to traffic: infrastructure like roads and bridges, efficient mass transportation, decongestion of NCR, and effective traffic policies.

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robie siy
Apr 10 01:32 AM

More roads and bridges can help but only if they are prioritized for people, rather than cars. The BGC-Ortigas bridge is an example of a vehicle-centric bridge which generated heavier traffic by attracting greater car use. Imagine if all new bridges were only for public transport, pedestrians and cyclists. It would attract more motorists to shift to sustainable modes.

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Pia Ranada
Apr 10 01:33 AM

To those just joining us, here again is the livestream of the "traffic town hall" which is ongoing now: https://www.rappler.com/nation/metro-manila/be-the-good-episode-panel-commuters-cyclists-watch-weigh-marcos-jr-traffic-town-hall/

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Lance Spencer Yu
Apr 10 01:34 AM

So far, there's been little focus on public transport and active transport. MMDA admits that the increase in cars is the leading cause of traffic, but if I'm not mistaken, no one has mentioned enacting policies or improving public transport with the goal of dissuading people from buying more cars.

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Pia Ranada
Apr 10 01:37 AM

Agree @Lance Spencer Yu . The closest to making that connection was from Artes listing "more mass transit systems" as one solution to the problem of too many cars. But apart from upcoming train lines, no discussion on how to improve current state of public transportation, how to make it more attractive to commute. I'm waiting for someone to mention how intermodal transportation will be made more efficient and connected.

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Dwight
Apr 10 01:38 AM

Yeah, havent heard the agencies acknowledge proposals that were raised in the past by transport advocacy groups. Move as One for example suggested putting thousands of jeeps and buses on service contracts, but that doesnt seem to be on the table today for the government.

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Pia Ranada
Apr 10 01:39 AM

Open forum has started. Let's see what questions are raised here!

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Dekey Mabaya
Apr 10 01:39 AM

I think one of the better initiatives mentioned is from DOTR about Rail as an alternative to driving. The sad part is how DPWH's priorities and mentions of multiple expressway projects go against that.
Still waiting for mention of the Land Use, 'Walk-sheds' around Train stations and the connectivity between NSCR and other rail.

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Dwight
Apr 10 01:41 AM

This open forum is definitely controlled. IIRC, the emcee before the program asked the audience to submit questions, but the first one they called to ask a question is San Juan Mayor Francis Zamora.

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Russell Ku
Apr 10 01:41 AM
Dwight

This open forum is definitely controlled. IIRC, the emcee before the program asked the audience to submit questions, but the first one they called to ask a question is San Juan Mayor Francis Zamora.

Was thinking about this since Zamora also delivered the opening remarks.

01:42 AM

The fact that they controlled the audience for this town hall should not be surprising that a lot of aspects about this town hall is controlled.

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Dwight
Apr 10 01:43 AM

Let's see if the order of open forum participants based on the copy of the tentative program we saw a few days back will be followed. From what I have, the speakers include reps from ECOP, Angkas, Pasang Masda, Association of Brgy Captains in San Juan, and QC LGU traffic and parking and management office.

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Lance Spencer Yu
Apr 10 01:44 AM
Dekey Mabaya

I think one of the better initiatives mentioned is from DOTR about Rail as an alternative to driving. The sad part is how DPWH's priorities and mentions of multiple expressway projects go against that. Still waiting for mention of the Land Use, 'Walk-sheds' around Train stations and the connectivity between NSCR and other rail.

Yes; there wasn't much mention of the Metro Manila Subway either, which DOTr estimates will serve 519,000 passengers every day. It would have been nice if they discussed how these mass public transportation projects will help

https://www.rappler.com/business/fast-facts-metro-manila-subway/

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01:44 AM

Ayan, at least now there's a question asking for the government's commitment to mass public transit projects

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Pia Ranada
Apr 10 01:46 AM

Francis Maronilla of the Employers Confederation of the Philippines asks: how can government improve state of public tarnsportation in Metro Manila? What are assurances that public transit projects will be completed on time?

01:47 AM

In response, DOTR secretary Jaime Bautista mentions Metro Manila subway that can transport 500,000 passengers daily, improvement of MRT3, LRT2, and LRT1, ongoing construction of North South Commuter Railway

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Dwight
Apr 10 01:48 AM

Marcos now chiming in.

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robie siy
Apr 10 01:49 AM

More conventional road and bridge infrastructure only attracts more motor vehicle use. We need to break out of the downward spiral of diminishing mobility, driven by the phenomenon of “induced demand.” We need roads and bridges that prioritize the most efficient travel modes—walking, cycling and public transport.

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Dwight
Apr 10 01:49 AM

Marcos: Wala talagang solusyon ang traffic kung hindi talaga tayo malipat sa mass transit.

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Marcos: Tren talaga ang tanging solusyon, yan ang ating pinupursige, para mas mapabilis natin ang transport system, mapalipat ang pagbiyahe ng commuter, sa halip na sumakay ng bus, tricycle, jeepney, o sarili nilang sasakyan, sila ay sumakay na sa mass transit system.

01:52 AM

Marcos now reporting status of his administration's railway projects. The President really leaning hard into rails as solution.

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Lance Spencer Yu
Apr 10 01:54 AM

It's come from the President himself that mass transportation projects should be the priority of the government

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Dekey Mabaya
Apr 10 01:54 AM

I wonder what the 38% complete mean at the NSCR Manila-Calamba mean.
Most of the construction I've seen so far are old rail track removal.

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Russell Ku
Apr 10 01:55 AM
Dwight

Marcos: Tren talaga ang tanging solusyon, yan ang ating pinupursige, para mas mapabilis natin ang transport system, mapalipat ang pagbiyahe ng commuter, sa halip na sumakay ng bus, tricycle, jeepney, o sarili nilang sasakyan, sila ay sumakay na sa mass transit system.

But then again, why is the President is not considering the bus as a form of mass transit, especially when it delivers thousands of Filipinos even to areas not accessible by trains.

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01:56 AM

Also considering that train projects take a long time to construct, much more with the red tape.

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Ira Cruz
Apr 10 01:59 AM

I agree, @Russell Ku - there are solutions that we can and should already implement now

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Russell Ku
Apr 10 02:00 AM

It's also weird that motorcycle taxis are being more prioritized than bus drivers or jeepney

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Pia Ranada
Apr 10 02:00 AM

Marcos: We have to consider the road system and mass transit system in Metro Manila as one system and one system feeds into anither. That's why were trying to coordinate different LGUs of Metro Manila, bring it together into one wholistic plan.

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Russell Ku
Apr 10 02:00 AM

What happened to libreng sakay programs? QC still does it.

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Pia Ranada
Apr 10 02:00 AM

Marcos sounds good, the messaging is progressive. But it seems his vision is not yet translating to coordination of plans presented by the different agencies. What will be the follow-through here.

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Ira Cruz
Apr 10 02:02 AM
Russell Ku

What happened to libreng sakay programs? QC still does it.

They continue to run it and even took it a step further by passing an Ordinance to ensure it's continued operation

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Russell Ku
Apr 10 02:02 AM
Ira Cruz

They continue to run it and even took it a step further by passing an Ordinance to ensure it's continued operation

Ah, I mean at a national level, sorry!

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Ira Cruz
Apr 10 02:03 AM
Pia Ranada

Marcos sounds good, the messaging is progressive. But it seems his vision is not yet translating to coordination of plans presented by the different agencies. What will be the follow-through here.

That's a good question - does this amount to a directive, Executive Order?

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Russell Ku
Apr 10 02:03 AM

I think it's a shame lang that libreng sakay is only offered at a national level if there is a transport strike for example instead of a budget that could help.

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Ira Cruz
Apr 10 02:04 AM

Tho we don't support the idea of a libreng sakay since it is not sustainable.

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Russell Ku
Apr 10 02:04 AM
Ira Cruz

Tho we don't support the idea of a libreng sakay since it is not sustainable.

Fair point! Baka the risk of a band-aid solution naman rin.

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Dekey Mabaya
Apr 10 02:04 AM

"Road and Mass transit system as one system.. one system feeds with one another"
I think they can consider delegating lanes for Mass Transit at major Expressways. Especially now that the
PNR turned to Buses to help their passengers. Buses can only hope to match the efficiency of rail if they have
dedicated lanes without cars impeding their flow.

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Ira Cruz
Apr 10 02:05 AM
Russell Ku

Fair point! Baka the risk of a band-aid solution naman rin.

Instead, the Government should implement proper Service Contracting

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Dwight
Apr 10 02:13 AM

Marcos asserts: no more extension of PUV consolidation deadline after April 30.

02:13 AM

That statement was met with cheers from the Pasang Masda delegation here.

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Ira Cruz
Apr 10 02:15 AM

@Dwight, out of curiosity, were questions really collected from attendees? The emcee mentioned it before the Open Forum - that they collected and selected questions.

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Pia Ranada
Apr 10 02:16 AM
Dwight

Marcos asserts: no more extension of PUV consolidation deadline after April 30.

That's a key update from Marcos. Pasang Masda says 86% of consolidation completed nationwide. Anong impact nung hard stop on April 30 sa mga jeepney routes? How will this impact jeepney passengers?

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Dwight
Apr 10 02:17 AM
Ira Cruz

@Dwight, out of curiosity, were questions really collected from attendees? The emcee mentioned it before the Open Forum - that they collected and selected questions.

I doubt it. The ones asking questions are similar to the list of open forum participants based on the draft program we saw a few days back, one that was internally released to government agencies.

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Lance Spencer Yu
Apr 10 02:18 AM
Pia Ranada

That's a key update from Marcos. Pasang Masda says 86% of consolidation completed nationwide. Anong impact nung hard stop on April 30 sa mga jeepney routes? How will this impact jeepney passengers?

For context too: PM's Ka Obet is a Marcos loyalist, ever since Marcos Sr. Pasang Masda has always supported PUV modernization, unlike Piston and Manibela, which were the two groups protesting against consolidation. LTFRB also mentioned on Monday that there would be no more talks of another extension after April 30

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Pia Ranada
Apr 10 02:19 AM

Note that Piston and Manibela were not invited to this traffic town hall, based on the list Dwight was able to get.

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Dwight
Apr 10 02:22 AM
Pia Ranada

Note that Piston and Manibela were not invited to this traffic town hall, based on the list Dwight was able to get.

Yep, Manibela's Mar Valbuena confirmed they did not receive an invitation. They will be holding a press conference tomorrow.

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Pia Ranada
Apr 10 02:22 AM

@Mar Valbuena Kung online ka, feel free to weigh in!

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Wasted Wanderer
Apr 10 02:23 AM

Can someone ask Marcos Jr. or Artes if they've read (and understood) the Philippine Development Plan of 2023-2028? It states there that "Enactment of a law institutionalizing the use of bicycles and other active and sustainable modes of transportation" is supposed to be a legislative priority. It also states that "Pedestrians and cyclists will be accorded highest priority in the hierarchy of road users"

02:25 AM

With regard to jeepney modernization, Marcos has made promises during the campaign period and even during his term that for as long as a jeep isn't in need of repair, it can still operate.

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Ira Cruz
Apr 10 02:25 AM

san yung comment section ng traffic summit? 😶‍🌫️

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Pia Ranada
Apr 10 02:26 AM

Thanks for pointing that out @Wasted Wanderer ! @robie siy brought that up in our live panel discussion earlier. Have not heard anyone mention a comprehensive strategy to improve pedestrian experience, sidewalks. Just mention of elevated pathway in shaw-ortigas portion of EDSA.

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Ira Cruz
Apr 10 02:30 AM

It's like listening to five different meetings

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Wasted Wanderer
Apr 10 02:30 AM

It's quite counterproductive (and underhanded) to hold a town hall meeting but not invite specific groups, especially representatives of sectors that will be directly affected by government's flawed policies. Was someone able to ask why they did this?

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Dwight
Apr 10 02:33 AM
Wasted Wanderer

It's quite counterproductive (and underhanded) to hold a town hall meeting but not invite specific groups, especially representatives of sectors that will be directly affected by government's flawed policies. Was someone able to ask why they did this?

I asked the PCO the other day for a list of groups invited to the town hall, since we learned that representatives from civil society appeared to have been snubbed. We didn't get a reply.

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02:34 AM

(We got the list of people invited from our sources outside Malacanang.)

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DDay
Apr 10 02:39 AM

Hi, Pia. Has anyone pointed out that last year, 9 Metro Manila mayors went on a study tour to the Netherlands to study the robust bike culture there? https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1761621/metro-mayors-study-bike-system-in-netherlands-trip

Have they learned nothing from that trip, which was "sponsored by the Metropolitan Manila Development Authority (MMDA)" -- in reality, paid for with taxpayer money? Pera natin 'yon!

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Ira Cruz
Apr 10 02:39 AM

Now they are planning a study tour in Thailand.

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DDay
Apr 10 02:43 AM
Ira Cruz

Now they are planning a study tour in Thailand.

Here's a throwback, Ira: In 2012, key Filipino officials from 10 cities and three government agencies went on a study tour to Guangzhou to learn innovative ideas that will move people safely and easily in Metro Manila. Wala ring nagbago pagbalik nila sa Pilipinas. :( https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/scitech/science/277993/how-to-turn-metro-manila-into-a-people-friendly-megacity/story/

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Lance Spencer Yu
Apr 10 02:47 AM

Speaking of modern jeepneys, a UP researcher and some local manufacturers also believe that minimum fares could increase once jeepney operators are required to modernize:

https://www.rappler.com/business/jeepney-fare-hike-after-modernization-experts-fear-double/

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Wasted Wanderer
Apr 10 02:56 AM
DDay

Hi, Pia. Has anyone pointed out that last year, 9 Metro Manila mayors went on a study tour to the Netherlands to study the robust bike culture there? https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1761621/metro-mayors-study-bike-system-in-netherlands-trip Have they learned nothing from that trip, which was "sponsored by the Metropolitan Manila Development Authority (MMDA)" -- in reality, paid for with taxpayer money? Pera natin 'yon!

THIS. I find it infuriating that Artes and Zamora were there and appear to have learned nothing from the trip. Zamora is still the president of the Metro Manila Council, right? The MMDA's policy making body?

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Wasted Wanderer
Apr 10 03:04 AM
DDay

Here's a throwback, Ira: In 2012, key Filipino officials from 10 cities and three government agencies went on a study tour to Guangzhou to learn innovative ideas that will move people safely and easily in Metro Manila. Wala ring nagbago pagbalik nila sa Pilipinas. :( https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/scitech/science/277993/how-to-turn-metro-manila-into-a-people-friendly-megacity/story/

Thanks for this article. I did not know about this. Looks like study trips like this one are a waste of taxpayer money, when they could've just watched a YouTube video on "How To Build A City Around Bikes, Fast"

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Charlie Barkin
Apr 10 03:04 AM

they didn't discuss about those abusive motorist in the bike lanes.

Human greediness is one part that we should change.

Greediness kills all.

03:05 AM

​​Stop being greedy. Greediness kills all.

03:05 AM

Huwag naman hangang message lang.

03:05 AM

Action is better than words.

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cristina
Apr 10 03:06 AM

Hello! Sharing some photos from #KalsadaParaSaMasa ride this morning. We rode from Commission on Human Rights to MMDA, then passed by the Traffic Summit venue.

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Charlie Barkin
Apr 10 03:06 AM

​​Better bike lanes true. But motorist are being greedy, and the make the bike lanes for their own purpose, it is useless.

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At the end is us common citizen is the culprit. We must change our behaviors. Stop being greedy. Think of the others who are using the roads.

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Charlie Barkin
Apr 10 03:08 AM

It is greedy people who need to change our behavior

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Charlie Barkin
Apr 10 03:09 AM

Stop being greedy. Look at our selves in the mirror. And change our behavior. At the end it is ourselves which we need to change.

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Charlie Barkin
Apr 10 03:10 AM

Road for all.

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Russell Ku
Apr 10 03:10 AM
cristina

Hello! Sharing some photos from #KalsadaParaSaMasa ride this morning. We rode from Commission on Human Rights to MMDA, then passed by the Traffic Summit venue.

Got these photos. Glad that there are people who are protesting as the traffic summit was going on. Thank you @cristina!

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Charlie Barkin
Apr 10 03:12 AM

Protest is nothing if the government doesn't listen. Let the government know that they are becoming greedy. So stop the greediness.

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Apr 10 03:16 AM

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RJ Mendoza
Apr 10 03:16 AM

listening to different meetings sounds about right. mismong mmda and lto have differing plans for implementation. bruh.

03:17 AM

and i have unsavory words for Obet and Pasang Masda higherups. why would they cheer the impending loss of jeepneys? it already got cratered during the covid shutdown

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03:19 AM

ang unfortunate na mmda is still at with sa kanilang reduce traffic scheme. naglagay nga sila ng mga overpasses supposedly to facilitate it pero it changed nothing

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03:21 AM

also, rail is okay but has LOTS of issues. marcos jr is somehow overlooking the forest for the trees. immediate solutions like permitting more routes, widen the edsa carousel, and encouraging mobility thru LEV is a good start.

also, those trips to Guangzhou and Netherlands... Im sorry but I truly believe it was a classic case of junket

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Charlie Barkin
Apr 10 03:25 AM

Bike lanes are useless, if we don't have discipline for ourselves. If we make the bike lanes accessible to cyclist instead of making it as a motorcycle express lanes, car park, loading and unloading area, then the bike lane will be useful. Again... Human greediness. Pakitang tao lang un bike lanes. But according to the tourist, "Our bike lanes in the Philippines Sucks!"

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Lala
Apr 10 03:28 AM

Are there some real-time update feeds of the discussion I can follow on regarding the Traffic Summit?

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Russell Ku
Apr 10 03:28 AM
Lala

Are there some real-time update feeds of the discussion I can follow on regarding the Traffic Summit?

You can recap it here and we're still in the live panel discussion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkdlhKMCj_o

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Charlie Barkin
Apr 10 03:28 AM

This morning forum is pakitang tao lang. It is just to show public that the LGU and the NGU cares. But in facts their not....

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03:31 AM

They should consults the public commuters, cyclist, pedestrians. Because we are the answer to the traffic problems here in the Philippines.

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Bike Barista
Apr 10 03:36 AM

The problem now is the LGU and Barangay elected officials are already preparing for the elections next year so the implementation for the changes we need might probably be delayed. Certain programs for this year must be finished by September to avoid influencing the citizens.

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Lala
Apr 10 03:38 AM
Charlie Barkin

This morning forum is pakitang tao lang. It is just to show public that the LGU and the NGU cares. But in facts their not....

Quite absurd, right? If they’re already putting up this expensive facade to show that they care for the people, bakit di na lang nila totohanin? 🤦🏾

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Charlie Barkin
Apr 10 03:39 AM

true, true.

03:39 AM

Actions is better than words. If people do not do anything, their words are nothing.

03:41 AM

Again, if government officials keep saying and doing nothing, it is useless. And they should remove their greedy desires in order to make a better roads for everyone.

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Alyssa
Apr 10 03:42 AM

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Charlie Barkin
Apr 10 03:42 AM
Bike Barista

The problem now is the LGU and Barangay elected officials are already preparing for the elections next year so the implementation for the changes we need might probably be delayed. Certain programs for this year must be finished by September to avoid influencing the citizens.

Greedy desires... That is what kills us humans. Remove it and we will be happy.

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Alyssa
Apr 10 03:42 AM

We passed by tricycle drivers along Katipunan

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cristina
Apr 10 03:45 AM

We entered MMDA!

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Pia Ranada
Apr 10 03:45 AM

Thank you so much for joining our community chat about the traffic town hall! Please feel free to keep sending your ideas, concerns, suggestions here and we will compile them and relay to Malacañang.

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Lala
Apr 10 03:54 AM

Maybe something we can ask to the LGUs and MMDA: what have they learned from their study tour in the Netherlands and why is it that the people aren’t reaping the benefits of sending them abroad using taxpayers’ money?

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Miss Go
Apr 10 05:38 AM

I'd like to see and understand the study that became the basis of this policy. I'm not sure this will reduce traffic kung hindi naman babawasan ang mga kotse sa daan, at hindi aayusin ang public transport system.

Itinigil ang PNR, maraming ruta na mawawalan ng jeepneys by end of April, hindi naman nadagdagan ang tren. Ano pa?
https://www.rappler.com/nation/metro-manila/local-government-units-working-hours-starting-april-15-2024/

05:42 AM

Tama ba ako, @patrick? Will one hour make a difference? Pababangunin lang nang mas maaga ang mga empleyado. At parang pinahaba lang ang rush hour. As your report says, around half a million government workers ang commuters.

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patrick
Apr 10 05:51 AM

Agree, @Miss Go. Even before this policy, maaga rin naman nang bumabangon 'yung mga tao to consider 'yung traffic.

05:52 AM

Not sure, pero parang ganito rin 'yung oras ng pasok ng mga estudyante, so malamang sasabay pa sila doon

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Miss Go
Apr 10 05:53 AM

Naiisip ko 'yung mga taga-Cavite, Laguna, Rizal, Bulacan na sa Metro Manila nagtatrabaho. Anong oras sila gigising, maghahanda, at bibiyahe kung before 7 am ay dapat nasa trabaho na sila?

05:54 AM
patrick

Not sure, pero parang ganito rin 'yung oras ng pasok ng mga estudyante, so malamang sasabay pa sila doon

Isa pa 'yan — oo nga, sasabay sa mga estudyante, na mas marami pa kaysa workers.

05:55 AM
Miss Go

Naiisip ko 'yung mga taga-Cavite, Laguna, Rizal, Bulacan na sa Metro Manila nagtatrabaho. Anong oras sila gigising, maghahanda, at bibiyahe kung before 7 am ay dapat nasa trabaho na sila?

Eh kahit nga 'yung mga taga-"Farview," di ba, parang probinsiya na ang biyahe kapag rush hour kung sa ibang parte ng NCR ang trabaho nila?

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patrick
Apr 10 06:01 AM

Dapat din i-consider ‘yung limited operating hours ng mga bus going to Manila. I’m from Bulacan and my trip is around two to three hours via bus and ang first trip is around 4 am. So if 7 am ang pasok sa opisina alanganin na 

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06:03 AM

Excluding pa dito ‘yung travel time going to office or kung saan man ako magco-cover 

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patrick
Apr 10 06:12 AM

Just found this, meroong memorandum circular ang Civil Service Commission noong 2022, urging government agencies to adopt "flexible work arrangements."

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patrick
Apr 10 06:18 AM

Among many other reasons, traffic congestion is one reason why government employees are encouraged to adopt this. I wonder if this has been adopted and how it has contributed to addressing the traffic problem.

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Miss Go
Apr 10 06:20 AM

I'm guessing that government offices DIDN'T adopt flexi work hours — they still went to work sa oras na kinasanayan, kaya hindi naibsan ang trapik. Kasi "urge" lang naman ang sabi ng CSC.

06:20 AM

At saka ang mura ng DP sa mga kotse, kaya trapik pa rin.

06:23 AM

TRAINS talaga ang solusyon — kaya lang patayo tayo nang patayo ng flyovers and expressways. Well, kasi paano naman ang gasoline businesses kung hindi ie-encourage magkotse ang mga tao? 😜

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RJ Mendoza
Apr 10 06:43 AM
Miss Go

I'm guessing that government offices DIDN'T adopt flexi work hours — they still went to work sa oras na kinasanayan, kaya hindi naibsan ang trapik. Kasi "urge" lang naman ang sabi ng CSC.

urge lang naman eh. may flexi yung ibang govt offices pero it's not too "flexitime" in the truest sense. kumbaga may options, parang ito 7-4 or 8-5 ganun.

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RJ Mendoza
Apr 10 07:11 AM

also, the four week work day will only work IF existing labor regulations on working hours are revised. it is currently set to 48 hours a week. if this is compressed, this equals to 12 working hours a day. for comparison, if done with the "5 days compressed", this means 9-10 working hours, which I've worked with once, and it was tiring. or what offices usually do is 8hrs/6day week.

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Miss Go
Apr 10 07:18 AM

‘Yun din, @rjmmendoza444 — baka hindi naikokonsidera ang ibang moving parts (in this case, as you said, the “existing labor regulations”) bago maglabas ng policy ang separate agencies.

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RJ Mendoza
Apr 10 09:40 AM
Miss Go

‘Yun din, @rjmmendoza444 — baka hindi naikokonsidera ang ibang moving parts (in this case, as you said, the “existing labor regulations”) bago maglabas ng policy ang separate agencies.

not an easy task too, since many in private sector are used to this simply because it is allowed. old habits die hard.

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Noel
Apr 14 11:42 AM

May mga nakapansin din ba na sinabayan ng distance learning ng DepEd ang tigil-pasada ng mga PUJs? Tapos minamaliit na naman ng gobyerno ang tigil-pasada.

“Handa naman kami, but also if I may share, kadalasan naman po hindi naman namin kinakailangang gamitin ang sasakyan. Just in case lang po na talagang magkaroon ito ng epekto sa transportasyon tsaka lang namin ginagamit,” Metro Manila Council President and San Juan Mayor Francis Zamora said.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/2024/4/13/metro-manila-council-ready-for-2-day-transport-strike-1729

11:46 AM

Bakit kaya kailangan ng distance learning kung hindi pala ramdam ang tigil-pasada? Ayon sa DepEd, ang distance learning ay para “allow learners to complete pending assignments, projects, and other requirements as the end of the school year is fast-approaching.” Hindi nila binanggit ang tigil-pasada. Kapani-paniwala po ba?
https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2024/04/12/2347202/asynchronous-classes-public-schools-april-15-16-deped

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Lance Spencer Yu
Apr 15 12:52 AM

Morning! We're monitoring today the transport strike held by PISTON and Manibela (https://www.rappler.com/business/piston-manibela-launch-transport-strike-april-15-2024/)

The MMDA said earlier this morning, they have not monitored any disruptions and that they haven't deployed any of their around 400 libreng sakay vehicles

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Pia Ranada
Apr 15 03:55 AM

Hello! Today is the first day MMDA is implementing its restriction on electric bikes and electric tricycles on national roads.

03:56 AM

You can check this story on things to know!

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Pia Ranada
Apr 15 05:02 AM

Rappler editors' take on President Ferdinand Marcos Jr.'s 'traffic summit' here in Rappler's editorial today. #MakeManilaLiveable

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Pia Ranada
Today, 6 hours ago

Good morning! Curious to know about e-bike and e-trike users' experiences given the start of the restrictions on national roads in Metro Manila yesterday. Do share your experiences and feedback in this chat room any time. This will help us report better on the policy. Feel free to share your own original photos, if they help you tell your story. @here

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Alyssa
Today, 5 hours ago

Mobility advocates in solidarity with jeepney drivers in E Rod yesterday. Yesterday was also the first day of the EV ban!

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cristina
Today, 5 hours ago

Good morning! Allow me to share some links to social media posts on their April 15 experience. Manila Bike Commuter personally rode for 2 hours to document.

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Alyssa
Today, 5 hours ago

Sa welga po kahapon. So heartwarming to see spaces being reclaimed for people in protests!

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cristina
Today, 5 hours ago

Something alarming yesterday is this newly passed ordinance in Cainta also adopting a ban — specifically prohibiting E-BIKES and E-SCOOTERS in all major thoroughfares. It’s silly how the whereas clauses contradict its own policy goals. This ordinance seems to have been railroaded. https://www.facebook.com/share/p/xCy83JsANb632KSM/?mibextid=WC7FNe

03:20 AM

You can see in the comments how Cainta citizens are affected by it. Here’s a comment shared by an ebike user.

03:20 AM

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Alyssa
Today, 5 hours ago

Terrible news. Other localities seem to be emboldened because of MMDA.

03:22 AM

outside of Metro Manila I mean

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cristina
Today, 5 hours ago

Some advocates are reaching out to Ms. Shawntel Nieto, an influential sustainability advocate who may be closely related to Cainta Mayor Elenita Nieto.

03:25 AM

We are hoping that they realize this policy’s impacts on mobility and the environment — how it worsens air pollution and urban heat, by encouraging the use of more motor vehicles.

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Laurice Angeles
Today, 3 hours ago
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Alyssa

Sa welga po kahapon. So heartwarming to see spaces being reclaimed for people in protests!

Jeepney phaseout strike ito no? Saan pala ito and who were the groups present? :) @Alyssa

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Alyssa
Today, 3 hours ago

This was in Espana @lauricegabangeles ! PISTON, Manibela, and youth orgs

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Laurice Angeles
Today, 3 hours ago

Got it! Salamat :)

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Alyssa
Today, 2 hours ago

I think other labor groups, urban poor advocates, and other orgs were present