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rob cham
Jun 28 10:19 AM

from komikon it used to be a lot of just komiks with no emphasis on art as prints, stickers, merch, things eventually started changing where lot more pop ups and art markets started and buying and selling prints, stickers, acrylics, posters, all sorts of items became something, toycon became bigger, animecons became bigger, there was a crosspollination of artists from all over from different industries and disciplines

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Cyrill
Jun 28 10:20 AM
rob cham

it's one of the things i like doing: earning money but it definitely is a space for a lot of things besides earning money, it's defiitely something with a community aspect, where you can meet other creators and artists, and also meet patrons or fans who could give your work a chance, then you see them at the next cons and you then make a new friend. another aspect to it is the work, where you gain confidence in that your stuff sells or you see what works and you learn, a critique in a way where people might give you feedback, or people might be excited for your next work. it gave me a lot of drive to aim for new work and releases for comics i would do when a con or market would be coming up

True! Bukod din sa kumita ng extra cash, I do really enjoy hanging out with friends sa cons kase nakakawala ng pagod, that’s one of the things I really look forward. And nakakainspire to be in a space filled with creative people and have conversations with them.

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rob cham
Jun 28 10:21 AM

i think the major change in the 2010s was diversity while 2020s is where it evolved into what it is today with influences from cons around the world as well, artist alleys now kind of have booth tech or how you display your items to maximize the space

10:21 AM

useful tutorial or things to keep in mind here, really good resource https://youtu.be/hhds0Fys-pU

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Cartoonist ZACH
Jun 28 10:21 AM
rob cham

it's one of the things i like doing: earning money but it definitely is a space for a lot of things besides earning money, it's defiitely something with a community aspect, where you can meet other creators and artists, and also meet patrons or fans who could give your work a chance, then you see them at the next cons and you then make a new friend. another aspect to it is the work, where you gain confidence in that your stuff sells or you see what works and you learn, a critique in a way where people might give you feedback, or people might be excited for your next work. it gave me a lot of drive to aim for new work and releases for comics i would do when a con or market would be coming up

it's great to know that joining in art markets is a great way of building a community, at the same time, it helps you sustain your living, on the passion that you do!

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Marian Hukom
Jun 28 10:22 AM
Cartoonist ZACH

With you @rob cham having joined in more than a decade ago, @Marian Hukom since 2016, and @Cyrill @guia joined fairly recently, in your perspective, can you describe the landscape of art markets in the previous years and/or in the current year? Were there changes and how did it evolve?

hmmm for me, same with Rob that is used to be a lot of komiks lang! There was kind of like a routine for prod and tabling rin. Like you'll be able to make a timeline for summer komikon, then ber month events etc. But now the events are more frequent and sporadic!

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Cartoonist ZACH
Jun 28 10:22 AM
Cartoonist ZACH

it's great to know that joining in art markets is a great way of building a community, at the same time, it helps you sustain your living, on the passion that you do!

and I also love how you can verbally articulate what you feel on what you do as an artist

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rob cham
Jun 28 10:23 AM

i'd say that a current problem now with art markets is the gentrification in a way, where there are some art markets seem to see exhibitors not as a main feature or attraction but as a way to help fund the event, i have seen this with places like ESGS who charge 5 digits for a table compared to how other art markets would charge a third of a price for the same space, and they didnt do anything to lead people towards the artist alleys, lot of my friends were banished to the shadowrealm as they say, it was at world trade center but the exhibitors were placed in a tent next to world trade next to food stalls and people would be suprised at how ah may artist alley pala

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Cartoonist ZACH
Jun 28 10:23 AM
Marian Hukom

hmmm for me, same with Rob that is used to be a lot of komiks lang! There was kind of like a routine for prod and tabling rin. Like you'll be able to make a timeline for summer komikon, then ber month events etc. But now the events are more frequent and sporadic!

that's also what I observe not only there in Manila but also in Cebu. mas nagiging spontaneous nga at naglalabasan na parang mushroom

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guia
Jun 28 10:23 AM
Cartoonist ZACH

With you @rob cham having joined in more than a decade ago, @Marian Hukom since 2016, and @Cyrill @guia joined fairly recently, in your perspective, can you describe the landscape of art markets in the previous years and/or in the current year? Were there changes and how did it evolve?

puro Genshin 😭. even the supposed original comic events. but i mean, given the exponential rise ng price ng booths, production, and whatever other expenses, I can't blame artists for going for the safest investment. I at least commend theres an effort among organizers to curate and host more varied events like lgbt-centric, originals only, etc.

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Cyrill
Jun 28 10:23 AM
Cartoonist ZACH

With you @rob cham having joined in more than a decade ago, @Marian Hukom since 2016, and @Cyrill @guia joined fairly recently, in your perspective, can you describe the landscape of art markets in the previous years and/or in the current year? Were there changes and how did it evolve?

Before ako maging artist na nag booth sa mga art markets, I am a fan first so con-goer na ako during college mga 2019. I used to visit komiket, or kung may events sa Escolta and Cubao Expo. I also used to volunteer to Munzinelupa to observe stuff. Napansin ko na yeah mas madaming komiks, zines, and other self published stuff way back before pre-pandemic.

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rob cham
Jun 28 10:24 AM

so right now i would say there is bad actors coming in trying to ride the trend, often without understanding the current market, an example would be the recent Icon Manila post where they charged 10k for a table to a lot of critical backlash

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Cartoonist ZACH
Jun 28 10:24 AM
rob cham

i'd say that a current problem now with art markets is the gentrification in a way, where there are some art markets seem to see exhibitors not as a main feature or attraction but as a way to help fund the event, i have seen this with places like ESGS who charge 5 digits for a table compared to how other art markets would charge a third of a price for the same space, and they didnt do anything to lead people towards the artist alleys, lot of my friends were banished to the shadowrealm as they say, it was at world trade center but the exhibitors were placed in a tent next to world trade next to food stalls and people would be suprised at how ah may artist alley pala

the effect on me as an artist who wants to do tabling, it makes me discouraged tbh, with the high fees.

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guia
Jun 28 10:26 AM
rob cham

i'd say that a current problem now with art markets is the gentrification in a way, where there are some art markets seem to see exhibitors not as a main feature or attraction but as a way to help fund the event, i have seen this with places like ESGS who charge 5 digits for a table compared to how other art markets would charge a third of a price for the same space, and they didnt do anything to lead people towards the artist alleys, lot of my friends were banished to the shadowrealm as they say, it was at world trade center but the exhibitors were placed in a tent next to world trade next to food stalls and people would be suprised at how ah may artist alley pala

so true. i was contemplating boothing for the renaissance fair PH last March pero 15k yung "table" nila. and by "table" wala kasing table on theme sa pagiging ren fair. either you bring your own furniture or maglatag ka ng blanket sa forest floor.

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Cartoonist ZACH
Jun 28 10:27 AM

15k?!

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Marian Hukom
Jun 28 10:27 AM
Cyrill

Before ako maging artist na nag booth sa mga art markets, I am a fan first so con-goer na ako during college mga 2019. I used to visit komiket, or kung may events sa Escolta and Cubao Expo. I also used to volunteer to Munzinelupa to observe stuff. Napansin ko na yeah mas madaming komiks, zines, and other self published stuff way back before pre-pandemic.

True, there was more self published stuff nga! Now it's all smaller and easier to consume products. Plus yeah the booth setups! I remember back when we just had to put our stuff on the table itself, no grids or anything haha. But I do like decorating!

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rob cham
Jun 28 10:27 AM

a bad effect i have been seeing is how weekend art markets in smaller venues that would cost maybe 1k a table are trying to compete and set table fees at 4k, while not allowing for as much foot traffic as bigger events inside malls or events spaces. so it's become somewhat problematic that there are exploitative events organizers who don't have to try to capture an audience or attendees and can still make a profit off of exhibitors

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10:28 AM

i honestly also like the booth decorations and gimmicks, makes it feel vibrant and you see how everyone does their own take

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Marian Hukom
Jun 28 10:30 AM
rob cham

a bad effect i have been seeing is how weekend art markets in smaller venues that would cost maybe 1k a table are trying to compete and set table fees at 4k, while not allowing for as much foot traffic as bigger events inside malls or events spaces. so it's become somewhat problematic that there are exploitative events organizers who don't have to try to capture an audience or attendees and can still make a profit off of exhibitors

yeah! I think the trend started when vintage flea markets became more frequent then some organizers would invite print/trad artists to table as well. I used to go to weekly vintage fairs then noticed there were more art markets too!

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Cartoonist ZACH
Jun 28 10:30 AM
rob cham

a bad effect i have been seeing is how weekend art markets in smaller venues that would cost maybe 1k a table are trying to compete and set table fees at 4k, while not allowing for as much foot traffic as bigger events inside malls or events spaces. so it's become somewhat problematic that there are exploitative events organizers who don't have to try to capture an audience or attendees and can still make a profit off of exhibitors

with this, there was a recent art market held in Cebu as one of the events of a cosplay convention, held in a mall with a very very low foot traffic but they asked for high fees

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rob cham
Jun 28 10:31 AM

a friend sent me this as an example of these kinds of markets, where they are asking a lot (6k for a 2x4 space) for 2 days, and odd cafe in makati is a venue that has 80pax so no way that foot traffic and sales would be something artists could make back over a weekend

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Marian Hukom
Jun 28 10:31 AM

true and it's a fairly new brand pa!

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rob cham
Jun 28 10:31 AM

10:32 AM

another danger i've seen is how volunteer work from young creatives is being exploited by these organizations, often asking for free labor, but their asks would consist of the event collaterals, the animations, coverage, captions, copy, content strategists? why not hire a creative team instead of exploiting younger artists

10:33 AM
Cartoonist ZACH

with this, there was a recent art market held in Cebu as one of the events of a cosplay convention, held in a mall with a very very low foot traffic but they asked for high fees

my company almost tabled at nijipop fest hahahaha, we backed out because of how bad the registration was.

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Cartoonist ZACH
Jun 28 10:33 AM

With art markets appearing sporadically, is it safe to say that there is really a saturation on the art markets? how does this affect the artists, those who are veterans and newcomers?

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Cyrill
Jun 28 10:34 AM
Marian Hukom

yeah! I think the trend started when vintage flea markets became more frequent then some organizers would invite print/trad artists to table as well. I used to go to weekly vintage fairs then noticed there were more art markets too!

That’s true! Nagulat nalang ako one weekend noong mapadaan sa Maginhawa and nakalagay Flea Market pero may couple of tables na mga artist din .

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guia
Jun 28 10:34 AM

ang kawalan ng space for artists, and ang greedy monetization of what available space there is is the root problem of the over saturation of art for profit merchandise. a point which was sorely lacking in /that one article/ that got published some days ago which instead blamed the artist merchants trying to make ends meet.

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rob cham
Jun 28 10:34 AM

for those of you curious about what happened to nijipofest: https://x.com/creachivity_art/status/1802635715857322006

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Cartoonist ZACH
Jun 28 10:34 AM
rob cham

my company almost tabled at nijipop fest hahahaha, we backed out because of how bad the registration was.

o o p s

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Marian Hukom
Jun 28 10:35 AM

Oof. Been seeing a lot of call for volunteers from organizers recently. Tbh art markets are becoming more of a business and artists are turned into either background concessionaires or decorative merchants.

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Cartoonist ZACH
Jun 28 10:35 AM
Cyrill

That’s true! Nagulat nalang ako one weekend noong mapadaan sa Maginhawa and nakalagay Flea Market pero may couple of tables na mga artist din .

Ginawang side-event yarn

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Marian Hukom
Jun 28 10:36 AM

Or a way to attract people to an event. Especially when the artists itself are the ones who do the self promotion while organizers don't advertise their event much haha

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Cartoonist ZACH
Jun 28 10:36 AM
Marian Hukom

Or a way to attract people to an event. Especially when the artists itself are the ones who do the self promotion while organizers don't advertise their event much haha

true on most of the cases

10:37 AM
Marian Hukom

Or a way to attract people to an event. Especially when the artists itself are the ones who do the self promotion while organizers don't advertise their event much haha

kung sa bisaya pa, "dawat-limpyo"

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rob cham
Jun 28 10:38 AM
Cartoonist ZACH

With art markets appearing sporadically, is it safe to say that there is really a saturation on the art markets? how does this affect the artists, those who are veterans and newcomers?

I'd say that I like to think of it that we have grown enough as a creative industry where we have a lot of artists and creatives who all endeavor to make a living off their craft, I think it's not that there is an oversaturation of art markets, just that there is now lax and lack of care in organizers where we have seen recent events like pokeverse, nijipopfest, esgs etc where these badly organized, high priced, badly put together events have a lot of artists fall victim, discouraging artists, i wanna say that we need to have a balance of opportunities where it isn't that we have weekly art markets, but that we have it spread out across the philippines in different areas, i think a good example of this was the stickercon happening during komiket pride, one was in makati, the other in ortigas, one was one day, while the other was 3 days (which i think tired a lot of artists out) and while that was happening there were small pop ups in maginhawa and the south

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Marian Hukom
Jun 28 10:39 AM
Cyrill

That’s true! Nagulat nalang ako one weekend noong mapadaan sa Maginhawa and nakalagay Flea Market pero may couple of tables na mga artist din .

Before, I was only used to seeing art + flea markets being mixed together at gigs or org events. More on the indie community markets. Was surprised to see more organizers recently establish their own platforms and commercializing it haha.

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Cartoonist ZACH
Jun 28 10:39 AM
rob cham

I'd say that I like to think of it that we have grown enough as a creative industry where we have a lot of artists and creatives who all endeavor to make a living off their craft, I think it's not that there is an oversaturation of art markets, just that there is now lax and lack of care in organizers where we have seen recent events like pokeverse, nijipopfest, esgs etc where these badly organized, high priced, badly put together events have a lot of artists fall victim, discouraging artists, i wanna say that we need to have a balance of opportunities where it isn't that we have weekly art markets, but that we have it spread out across the philippines in different areas, i think a good example of this was the stickercon happening during komiket pride, one was in makati, the other in ortigas, one was one day, while the other was 3 days (which i think tired a lot of artists out) and while that was happening there were small pop ups in maginhawa and the south

How did these good examples helped make the mutual benefit between the artists and organizers?

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rob cham
Jun 28 10:41 AM

i think trying to have smaller community run events would be better in a way, the big con of cons is that it can be overwhelming for merchants, audiences, and the like, have these community-run events offer lower table rates, have them exhibit around the different cities around the ph, and to have proper curation in a way where i think another factor of art market fatigue is how often the opportunities for younger artists are blocked because of the high table rates, if there were better opportunities for new voices to come in, we'd see variety and support the growth of future superstars ithank you

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Cyrill
Jun 28 10:41 AM
Cartoonist ZACH

With art markets appearing sporadically, is it safe to say that there is really a saturation on the art markets? how does this affect the artists, those who are veterans and newcomers?

I think so yeah, merong art market saturation especially here sa Metro Manila. Based sa conversations na I made with other artists, β€œokay” sales nalang yung nakukuha nila, or kahit ma-earn lang yung table fee at production cost is okay na for them. Sa mga organizers, consistent yung earnings nila each event pero for artists medyo nag dedecline yung sales. Pero iba iba pa din eh, minsan surprisingly goods ang sale ganon haha.

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Cartoonist ZACH
Jun 28 10:42 AM
rob cham

i think trying to have smaller community run events would be better in a way, the big con of cons is that it can be overwhelming for merchants, audiences, and the like, have these community-run events offer lower table rates, have them exhibit around the different cities around the ph, and to have proper curation in a way where i think another factor of art market fatigue is how often the opportunities for younger artists are blocked because of the high table rates, if there were better opportunities for new voices to come in, we'd see variety and support the growth of future superstars ithank you

yeah, the event that you have recently organized (Manila Comics Fair)!

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Marian Hukom
Jun 28 10:43 AM
rob cham

I'd say that I like to think of it that we have grown enough as a creative industry where we have a lot of artists and creatives who all endeavor to make a living off their craft, I think it's not that there is an oversaturation of art markets, just that there is now lax and lack of care in organizers where we have seen recent events like pokeverse, nijipopfest, esgs etc where these badly organized, high priced, badly put together events have a lot of artists fall victim, discouraging artists, i wanna say that we need to have a balance of opportunities where it isn't that we have weekly art markets, but that we have it spread out across the philippines in different areas, i think a good example of this was the stickercon happening during komiket pride, one was in makati, the other in ortigas, one was one day, while the other was 3 days (which i think tired a lot of artists out) and while that was happening there were small pop ups in maginhawa and the south

Yeah, the rise of all these opportunities is great for making tabling a livelihood. But the way that it became trendy has organizers taking advantage of the wave. Then yeah, like Cyrill said, they'll have a steady profit from it while the artist's own sales decline. :(

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rob cham
Jun 28 10:43 AM

i think a really good example of this is UP Grail's Komikinang Fair on Jul 6 - 7 where they focused on a lot of younger artists and new releases and kept the table fees low

Patrons of The Arts had a rule for Fall and Halloween events where you can only sign up for either POTA fall or POTA Halloween - makes the merchants have time to rest and also lets the 2 events have a variety to them. would say Patrons right now is setting a good standard for events, even going as far as declaring POTA originals - no fan art allowed, and a non profit event for them, lowest table fees they have had, would really reco people go and support as artists rn i see are prepping new original work, trying new things out, and the organizers deserve the support, also happening on Jul 6-7

10:44 AM
Marian Hukom

Or a way to attract people to an event. Especially when the artists itself are the ones who do the self promotion while organizers don't advertise their event much haha

kinda hate that about Wet Market's marketing collats where they often just say PRODUCTS, shows me where their priorities lie

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Cartoonist ZACH
Jun 28 10:45 AM
rob cham

i think a really good example of this is UP Grail's Komikinang Fair on Jul 6 - 7 where they focused on a lot of younger artists and new releases and kept the table fees low Patrons of The Arts had a rule for Fall and Halloween events where you can only sign up for either POTA fall or POTA Halloween - makes the merchants have time to rest and also lets the 2 events have a variety to them. would say Patrons right now is setting a good standard for events, even going as far as declaring POTA originals - no fan art allowed, and a non profit event for them, lowest table fees they have had, would really reco people go and support as artists rn i see are prepping new original work, trying new things out, and the organizers deserve the support, also happening on Jul 6-7

can you send a link of the Komikinang Fair here (for promotion) hehe

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rob cham
Jun 28 10:45 AM
Cyrill

I think so yeah, merong art market saturation especially here sa Metro Manila. Based sa conversations na I made with other artists, β€œokay” sales nalang yung nakukuha nila, or kahit ma-earn lang yung table fee at production cost is okay na for them. Sa mga organizers, consistent yung earnings nila each event pero for artists medyo nag dedecline yung sales. Pero iba iba pa din eh, minsan surprisingly goods ang sale ganon haha.

yeah this i think is another change where i see more artists see kons and markets as the end goal of what you should do as an artits, where if you don't make a profit, it hurts the ego, or well self worth, i seen too many people discouraged from making art because of how this has been a thing. kinda hope we go towards a different route these days

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10:48 AM
Cartoonist ZACH

yeah, the event that you have recently organized (Manila Comics Fair)!

thank ya, that was built with BLTX.better living through xeroxography as a guiding light, i believe rappler did a feature on it for anyone unfamiliar - https://youtu.be/L0OdMt9uBmk

10:48 AM

I feel like as merchants we really can feel the difference between an organizer that cares vs one that kinda sees you as a moneymaking scheme

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Marian Hukom
Jun 28 10:49 AM

Yeah the current sales decline and oversaturation can discourage artists huhu. Admittedly I'm one of them! As doom and gloom as it seems, all of this makes me search and participate in better community focused events. Ones that are raising the bar cuz of this.

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rob cham
Jun 28 10:50 AM

i feel like wet market messaging me was very copy paste and impersonal, or Komiket where you sign up for an events newsletter, they email you but you might miss it, and sometimes the registrations are very unclear or unfinished, vs something like POTA where they invite you to a community discord, offer A LOT of resources for first timers, old timers, newbies, as ways for people to learn from one another and the event organizers are always around to hear and address all the concerns of merchants and such

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Marian Hukom
Jun 28 10:52 AM

yessss! i experienced the copy paste thing where very halata na my name in the email was just replaced before hahaha

10:53 AM

That's one thing I noticed about some markets rin! They do invite based events only. Even with their merchant interest forms. I can't help but feel some events are lowkey gatekept hahaha

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Cyrill
Jun 28 10:53 AM
Marian Hukom

Yeah the current sales decline and oversaturation can discourage artists huhu. Admittedly I'm one of them! As doom and gloom as it seems, all of this makes me search and participate in better community focused events. Ones that are raising the bar cuz of this.

I agree! without us artists and yung artworks natin, there’s no event that will be set up. And I hope we can see a more holistic, community driven events soon.

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Marian Hukom
Jun 28 10:55 AM
Cyrill

I agree! without us artists and yung artworks natin, there’s no event that will be set up. And I hope we can see a more holistic, community driven events soon.

Yessss tha artist do fill up the tables! But when tabling gets rough, I recently learned to look at other avenues of profit also. Like consignments that are indie artists friendly (I was part of Common Room's shared shelves program where they let me consign for 6 months without rent! This is a program to help artists develop their brands), and gearing up for online selling hahaha

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Cartoonist ZACH
Jun 28 10:55 AM

I think @Cyrill @Marian Hukom @rob cham you've displayed and also said good practices of some art markets and events to end this problem.

10:55 AM

I have a last question.

10:56 AM

I'm an artist that really haven't been in art markets before because I am afraid to do risks and what's currently going on. what's the most effective way to encourage artists like me to finally join the art markets?

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rob cham
Jun 28 10:57 AM

i do think one thing to consider is the art market side, they are consisting of volunteers, organizers, marketing divisions, all sorts of departments, so I think it's worth raising what are they doing to earn back their investment in the teams, the events place, the rent, where are they taking care of the artists or are they leaving them to figure it out, are they drawing a crowd properly, are they managing the event program and floor plan with the experience in mind or are they trying to maximize profits, so i think i'd be willing to pay these table fees if it meant that i had a good experience, so it's a symbiotic relationship where we do need these spaces, just that the issues we face are from incompetence, greed, and oftentimes coming from the wrong place

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10:58 AM
Marian Hukom

Yessss tha artist do fill up the tables! But when tabling gets rough, I recently learned to look at other avenues of profit also. Like consignments that are indie artists friendly (I was part of Common Room's shared shelves program where they let me consign for 6 months without rent! This is a program to help artists develop their brands), and gearing up for online selling hahaha

agree! we have a lot of avenues these days as artists/entrepreneurs

10:58 AM
Cartoonist ZACH

I'm an artist that really haven't been in art markets before because I am afraid to do risks and what's currently going on. what's the most effective way to encourage artists like me to finally join the art markets?

go to one as a participant not as a seller first, get an idea of what goes through an art market first before signing up

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Marian Hukom
Jun 28 10:59 AM

Yup better to scout it muna! ^ Then I think it would be great to start with a collective or share a table with someone to ease up on table rates. And to be more selective with an event and intentional with your merch. It'll help you find your community both with fellow artists and supporters.

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rob cham
Jun 28 11:00 AM

after that

don't go to the big ones alone, go with friends, collectively you can split table costs and take shifts and take turns, and you have things to learn where it's now about trying to find a way to do math on the spot, or figuring out the most efficient way to use a table space

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11:00 AM
Marian Hukom

Yup better to scout it muna! ^ Then I think it would be great to start with a collective or share a table with someone to ease up on table rates. And to be more selective with an event and intentional with your merch. It'll help you find your community both with fellow artists and supporters.

YEAH!

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Cartoonist ZACH
Jun 28 11:00 AM
rob cham

after that don't go to the big ones alone, go with friends, collectively you can split table costs and take shifts and take turns, and you have things to learn where it's now about trying to find a way to do math on the spot, or figuring out the most efficient way to use a table space

That's what community is all about πŸ₯°

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rob cham
Jun 28 11:01 AM

there's people teaching or holding workshops as well on how to art market if you wanna learn, amesenpai is setting one up for July

11:02 AM

Komikon Indieket has the indie tiangge that is also friendly to newcomers, but it is a komiks focused event so you need to have a komiks release, they ask for 20% of your sales at the end of the day

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/9q1YBB2Kgrgfy1ia/

11:03 AM

but i would say it's now a matter of not selling too much (a table is 3k for example usually at indieket, so di ka malulugi if you dont succeed to hard)

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Marian Hukom
Jun 28 11:04 AM

Yupp! Hmmm for more technical tips (these are ones that were minimal that I sometimes overlook), as a merchant for a table, prep these: bring lots of barya, calling cards with ur socmed, packaging (kahit yung brown paper bag lang for bread or smth hahaha), and a develop a product catalogue when taking photos of ur merch haha (single photo of each product so if people ask online abt it etc haha)

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rob cham
Jun 28 11:04 AM

3k as 20%... means you must seeellll 15k worth of books? which is unlikely

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Cyrill
Jun 28 11:04 AM
Cartoonist ZACH

I'm an artist that really haven't been in art markets before because I am afraid to do risks and what's currently going on. what's the most effective way to encourage artists like me to finally join the art markets?

As cliché, it might sound for me talagang show up and put yourself out there 😭 It will help to find an event prior na you think your art can fit to the audience of that event. It will also help to have someone na you know to share a table so you can split the table fees, and may buddy system ka pa during the event. We do art cons for different reasons, so I think it will help din to set that goal in mind kung anong learnings or oppurtunities you can get after that event. Sa ating mga art naman, I do believe the right people will find our art naman when they get to visit us sa cons. So create art na nag reresonate us personally 🫢

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rob cham
Jun 28 11:04 AM

oh and gcash and bpi qr codes

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Cyrill
Jun 28 11:05 AM
rob cham

after that don't go to the big ones alone, go with friends, collectively you can split table costs and take shifts and take turns, and you have things to learn where it's now about trying to find a way to do math on the spot, or figuring out the most efficient way to use a table space

+ yeah!

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Marian Hukom
Jun 28 11:06 AM
Cyrill

As cliché, it might sound for me talagang show up and put yourself out there 😭 It will help to find an event prior na you think your art can fit to the audience of that event. It will also help to have someone na you know to share a table so you can split the table fees, and may buddy system ka pa during the event. We do art cons for different reasons, so I think it will help din to set that goal in mind kung anong learnings or oppurtunities you can get after that event. Sa ating mga art naman, I do believe the right people will find our art naman when they get to visit us sa cons. So create art na nag reresonate us personally 🫢

Yesss agreee!! As draining as the artist algo is right now, you just have to show up talaga. Through this, your market can find you too!

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Cartoonist ZACH
Jun 28 11:07 AM

Before wrapping up this talk, I learned a lot from you @rob cham @Marian Hukom @Cyrill , as well as @guia and other people who participated. It gives me courage to participate and hopefully be at an event na hindi magiging disadvantageous sa atin na mga artists.

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Marian Hukom
Jun 28 11:07 AM

And very true the buddy system haha. Somebody to back you up when you need to take a break (grab food, cr breaks, bantay etc) hahaha.

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Cyrill
Jun 28 11:08 AM
Marian Hukom

Yupp! Hmmm for more technical tips (these are ones that were minimal that I sometimes overlook), as a merchant for a table, prep these: bring lots of barya, calling cards with ur socmed, packaging (kahit yung brown paper bag lang for bread or smth hahaha), and a develop a product catalogue when taking photos of ur merch haha (single photo of each product so if people ask online abt it etc haha)

The catalog of your artworks really helps! Kase people saved that on their phones and they encircle them prior going to cons. Sometimes they send that to their friends gc.

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rob cham
Jun 28 11:08 AM

i personally dont believe in catalogues... BE SURPRISED. ENJOY THE WONDER

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11:08 AM

joke

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Marian Hukom
Jun 28 11:08 AM

HAHAHA

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rob cham
Jun 28 11:08 AM

YES TELL THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY CAN GET

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11:09 AM
Cyrill

The catalog of your artworks really helps! Kase people saved that on their phones and they encircle them prior going to cons. Sometimes they send that to their friends gc.

gandang insight to honestly. ibudol mo ang pupunta

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Marian Hukom
Jun 28 11:09 AM

true or the ones who cant go! I see some con goers on video call showing merch lagi hahaha

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rob cham
Jun 28 11:11 AM
Cartoonist ZACH

Before wrapping up this talk, I learned a lot from you @rob cham @Marian Hukom @Cyrill , as well as @guia and other people who participated. It gives me courage to participate and hopefully be at an event na hindi magiging disadvantageous sa atin na mga artists.

thanks zach and thanks for having us

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Cyrill
Jun 28 11:11 AM
Cartoonist ZACH

Before wrapping up this talk, I learned a lot from you @rob cham @Marian Hukom @Cyrill , as well as @guia and other people who participated. It gives me courage to participate and hopefully be at an event na hindi magiging disadvantageous sa atin na mga artists.

Thank you, Zach for having us and to everyone here sa chat 🫢

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Cartoonist ZACH
Jun 28 11:11 AM

thank you sa lahat!!!

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Marian Hukom
Jun 28 11:12 AM

Thank you Zach!!! Excited to see your merch if ever you do table!!

11:12 AM

and to everyone here!

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rob cham
Jun 28 11:12 AM

boycott the shitty organizers and events, friends and strangers!

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Cartoonist ZACH
Jun 28 11:12 AM
Marian Hukom

Thank you Zach!!! Excited to see your merch if ever you do table!!

yup! sana makalipad pa-Manila!

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rob cham
Jun 28 11:12 AM

you deserve better! as a con goer or as a merchant

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11:13 AM
Cartoonist ZACH

yup! sana makalipad pa-Manila!

would recommend cebu art book fair

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Alex P
Jun 28 11:13 AM

thank you!! this was super insightful 🫢🏼

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rob cham
Jun 28 11:13 AM

they also have a similar set up from last year where they get a percentage of sales so that it's friendlier for artists

11:14 AM

they currently accepting applicants for aug 31 - sep 31 's cabf event https://www.facebook.com/share/p/x6WzniYwpsQQ7eg8/

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Marian Hukom
Jun 28 11:14 AM

yes to more outside metro manila events!!

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rob cham
Jun 28 11:15 AM

alabang counts right

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Marian Hukom
Jun 28 11:16 AM

for me, it does HAHA

11:16 AM

see yall in fairsssssss!

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rob cham
Jun 28 11:17 AM

HAVE A GOOD NIGHT

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RE-YAL OR FA-KE? πŸ€”

In his 2023 State of the Nation Address, President Ferdinand Marcos Jr. outlined several promises to address key issues, including improving the economy, digitalizing the Philippines, boosting agriculture, combating climate change, and continuing the campaign against illegal drugs, among others.

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Hello, here’s my submission! I drew about how President Marcos promised lower prices for rice (β‚±20 pesos daw!). But until now, Hindi pa rin natutupad yun. To the point na β‚±50+ na yung presyo! 🫀 #PangakoVsDrawing #FactsFirstPH #MarcosYear2 

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Hi, I'd like to share this. Would you be able to add a watermark of some sort for easy circulation of it?

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Hi! I'll be posting this on my art account, @marianieart on instagram, tonight for social sharing! If reposting po, kindly credit to "art by marianie" nalang. Thanks!

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